By Bernie on 23 Sep 2008
So how do Muslim dhimmis and apologists respond to the accusation that Islam not only condones mass killings, bombings, rapes, pedophilia and such but actually encourages those barbarities? By saying that Christianity also encourages the very same things.
A commenter responded to one of my posts thus:
Bombing buildings? See abortion clinics.
Screwing small children? See Catholic priests.
Beating women? See the Books of Deuteronomy, Exodus and Corinthians, the Inquisition, witch burning in the New World and the history of the Slave trade in America.
Raping and pillaging? See the Crusades, the 'secret war' in Laos, the overthrow of the Allende govt in Chile Sept 11 1973....
Let's dispose of these silly allegations seriatim:
- Allegation: Islamic Bombing of buildings is no different that the Christian bombing of abortion clinics.
The facts: The majority of anti-abortion groups oppose violence toward abortion providers, some even offer rewards for the capture of those who attack abortion clinics or the staff:
An anti-abortion group sponsored by Roman Catholic priests is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of suspects wanted for shooting abortion doctors, just one week after a fugitive was arrested in France for the 1998 murder of a Buffalo, N.Y., doctor.
Priests for Life said it will pay $50,000 for information that leads to the capture of fugitives so that the anti-abortion cause is not associated with extremists who kill abortion providers.
When was the last time a group of Muslims offered a reward to capture Islamic bombers?
While seven abortion providers have died at the hands of fanatical Christians in the past 15 years, hundreds of thousands have died in the same time period in over 11,915 barbaric Muslim attacks. More poor souls are killed in 5 minutes by Muslims than all the abortion providers by Christians since the beginning of time. Given that there are more Christians than Muslims we should have expected Christian bombings to have been in the tens of thousands not just a few handfuls. Obviously Christian bombings are not anything like Muslim bombings in frequency, intensity, barbarity, destruction or deaths.
The few abortion-provider deaths by Christian hands is so statistically insignificant and denounced by 99.9999999% of Christians that only an idiot of the highest order could ascribe these acts as being Christian in character. Give me a break.
- Allegation: Islam's enjoyment for sexually abusing small children is no different than Catholic priests screwing alter boys.
The facts: Islam allows sexual foreplay and sodomy on girls younger than nine years old provided there is no vaginal penetration:
"A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed. A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man's four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl's sister."
Meanwhile the Catholic Church is vehemently opposed to the abuse of children by priests or anyone else.
In Islam the reward for being a faithful Muslim is Paradise filled with virgin girls. And if you don't like girls then:
Islam Watch, 20 Sep 2008, Sex in the Islamic City
(Mohammad Asghar, an ex-Muslim who came out of Islam after discovering its true teachings:) Those men who will not have interest in sex with the female Hurs, Allah has made arrangement for them as well: they shall be attended by boys graced with eternal youth, who to the beholder’s eyes will seem like sprinkled pearls. When their clients will gaze upon that scene (what scene it will be is not known), they will behold a kingdom blissful and glorious (The Quran; 76:19-20, as translated by N. J. Dawood). Those boys will be wearing fine silk and heavy brocade, and they will be adorned with bracelets of silver. Allah will make them drunk (cf. the Quran; 76:21), so that they can serve their clients to their entire satisfaction.
Allah gives young boys mickies so that pedophiles can have an unrestrained buttfest with them. And what does Jesus say to do with anyone who abuses children?
Biblos.com, King James Bible, Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
So much for Christian support of pedophilia.
- Allegation: Islamic view of women is the same as in Deuteronomy, Exodus and Corinthians.
The facts: The United Nations Population Fund estimates that the annual worldwide total of honor killings may be as high as 5,000 women. This number is most likely quite low. Most of these murders go unreported and the perpetrators unpunished. In Islamic countries the stoning of females who commit adultery is not only state-sanctioned but sentencing is done by a modern Shariah court.
It is true that it is written in Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die." But 2,000 years ago Jewish rabbis declared these punishments to be uncivilized and not to be followed. Modern Christians, being civilized, follow the Jewish example. So if you look up the number of Christian women stoned for adultery in the past one hundred years you will find nothing, nada, zip, zero. Modern Christianity knows to ignore those parts of the Bible that were written in primitive, savage times. Muslims unfortunately have not done the same in regard to the Quran. While the infidel religious world has evolved and become civilized, Islam has taken primitive, barbaric and uncivilized portions of the Old Testament and kept them even to the present day. What savages!
- Allegation: Christians are just as savage as Muslims, witness the Inquisition.
The facts: Muslims kill more people in one year than in all 356 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. Great retort, equating the burning at the stake of less than 1,000 people over 356 years of the Spanish Inquisition with three times as many viciously killed by Muslims on one single, quiet Tuesday morning. Please stop using the Inquisition as an example of Christian barbarity. How about something more modern, like in the past century? And no, the abortion doctor killings are not condoned by enough Christians to make those a Christian practice.
- Allegation: Christians guilty of witch burning in the New World.
The facts: Sure, a few dozen witches were hanged over 300 years ago but what about lately? Why do dhimmis need to resort to events centuries ago to find examples of how Christians are just like Muslims? They only prove what I have been saying all along that Muslims follow a primitive, savage, barbaric religion.
But let's take a modern example of a witch hunt, but it's not by a Christian nation. Last February of 2008 (not 1693) Saudi Arabia condemned Fawzi Falih to death for "witchcraft". Ha! You stupid, ignorant, misinformed apologist for Islam. You bring up Christian witchcraft trials from the 1690s to show how modern Christians are just as savage and brutal as Muslims yet it is Islam of today which is still mired in the 7th century A.D.
The Times, 16 Feb 2008, King Abdullah urged to spare Saudi 'witchcraft' woman's life
A Saudi woman condemned to death for "witchcraft" is still clinging to hope that King Abdullah will spare her life after Human Rights Watch appealed her sentence.
Fawzi Falih faces imminent beheading for sorcery unless the King issues a rare pardon. But the influential rights group has stopped short of asking for intervention from foreign governments in the case, which has captured international attention and highlighted discriminatory aspects of the Saudi justice system, where courts often fail to follow due process.
Such was the case in the trial of Ms Falih, Human Rights Watch argues.
Religious police arrested the illiterate woman in 2005, allegedly beating her before forcing her to fingerprint a false confession. Her accusers included a man who claimed that she rendered him impotent with her sorcery.
In April 2006 the Saudi courts ruled the woman should be put to death to "protect the creed, souls and property of this country".
Modern Islam: Barbaric, feudal, primitive, savage, ignorant, and brutal.
- Allegation: Christians supported the slave trade in America.
The facts: Christians in America and Britain helped abolish slavery. The Quran accepts the institution of slavery. Islamic countries have only recently abolished slavery although, wink wink, if you want one you can buy one. The slave trade today is openly active in Muslim African countries.
Aside from white slavery Islam also enslaves 1.5 billion people in the world through mental slavery: the victims are called Muslims.
- Allegation: Crusades against Muslims shows how savage Christians are.
The facts: Muslims had it coming. Besides, a thousand year old accusation? Haven't you guys gotten over that yet?
Muslims are just like Christians? In your dreams, Abdul.
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