By Bernie on 31 Jul 2007
Photo Credit: The Jawa Report
I don't see what the crime here is, except perhaps desecrating a toilet with a filthy, vile book. This is the story:
A 23-year-old man was arrested Friday on hate-crime charges after he threw a Qur'an in a toilet at Pace University on two separate occasions, police said.
Stanislav Shmulevich of Brooklyn was arrested on charges of criminal mischief and aggravated harassment, both hate crimes, police said. It was unclear if he was a student at the school.
There were two separate events: in a toilet at Pace's lower Manhattan campus discovered by a teacher on Oct. 13, 2006 and another in a toilet on Nov. 21, 2006 discovered by a student.
But that's not the whole story. Further in the news article we read:
Treatment of the Qur'an is a sensitive issue for Muslims, who view the book as a sacred object and mistreating it as an offense against God. The religion teaches that the Qur'an is the direct word of God.
But so do Christians view the Bible and the Jews the Old Testament. Any religious person should be offended if they found their Holy relics in a toilet. As indeed Christians were offended in 1987 when Andres Serrano mixed blood, urine and a crucifix in a vat and photographed his creation calling it "Piss Christ". There is nothing wrong with asking that artists like this not to be supported with public funds but I do not recall anyone asking him to be arrested for felony hate crime.
So here is my advice to Stanislav: Go back and take a photo of the Koran swimming in the toilet and call it "Holy Shit Mohammed" and frame it. Then at least you have the Supreme Court ruling of Miller v. California (1973) to keep the cops off your back. By calling it art, at least your attempt to express your feelings will be protected by the First Amendment.
Related to those two toilet incidents, it is informative to recall that when the Jewish campus group Hillel Pace tried to have the anti-terror documentary, "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West," shown on campus, Pace administration officials threatened and intimidated Hillel members into cancelling it after Muslim students objected to it. Here's the way the threat was phrased:
21 Apr 2007,
Anti-terror film unmuzzled at PACE university
a dean gestured toward the two Hillel students at the meeting and threatened them that if they went ahead and showed the film, the police might begin to look into their personal records. (There had been several hate incidents on campus, including some that involved the Koran, and the implication was that the Hillel students might be considered suspects). Because of these threats, Hillel did not show the film on November 16, 2006.
Eventually the documentary was screened on 18 Apr 2007, but only after the Zionist Organization of America got involved.
Koran verses get washed down from the wooden board to be drunk by marabout's patients.
Marabout is traditional muslim healer, holy man , and helps not only with your health problems, but for example with success in business. You have to describe your problem and marabout will prepare a set of spells and write them down with suitable verses from Koran on a wooden board, which gets washed afterwards and the patient is given the dirty water with ink to drink. There is many marabouts like this in Mirriah, town in eastern Niger, where islam had to incorporate traditional practices in order to gain popularity.
Others Blogging on this:
Woman Honor Thyself,
SupporT Stanislav Shmulevich’s RightS
You may piss in a jar with a crucifix, exhibit elephant dung on the Virgin Mary,burn an American flag, march in public with the kkk and nazis, Muzlims may hold rallies threatening, howling and holding placards saying "Kill the Pope” and "Death to America.”
Yup. That’s freedom of expression.
But Stanislav was ahem…”harassing”?
On the double-standard:
Right Wing Nuthouse,
WHOSE FREEDOM? WHAT IS SPEECH?
The crucifix in urine is but one example of the outrageous anti-Christian "art” that has been shown over the last decade or so. What was the "intent” of the artist in creating such a display? Nothing less than to knowingly inflict emotional pain on those who believe in Christ as God. Artistic expression is rightly protected under the first amendment. But if we are going to use the standard of a Koran in the toilet provoking the exact same reaction among Muslims as the crucifix in urine did to Christians, why does one form of expression get a pass and the other doesn’t?
Isn’t this what the first amendment was created to protect? It doesn’t matter that your idea of free speech is different than mine. The first amendment guarantee is that all speech (with very limited exceptions) – yours, mine, and Mr. Shmulevich – is protected regardless of its affect on others.
Moonbattery - Find the Felony, Excerpt: The purpose of dhimmitude is to subject us infidels to lives of shameful subservience. It's working.
Here's an item some papers are leaving out:
Riehl World View,
Crime, Yes, Hate, No
Stanislav Shmulevich, 23, was confronted by detectives with a surveillance photo of himself leaving a Pace meditation room where the Muslim holy books were stored, police sources said.
He made "admitting statements" after seeing the photograph, a source said.
I still do not know what the "crime" is. It is no crime to take Holy Books; it is a well-known fact that one can take the Bible from any hotel room. If you go into any Jewish Community Center and see a number of Torahs on a desk, you are free to take one. I'm sure there are quite a number of Korans in the Muslim Center and I doubt anyone thinks it a crime to take one. Certainly the only place where this assumption breaks down is in a bookstore. So again, what is the crime? Was the toilet stopped up? Did water overflow? Was there any damage? Pace University certainly has a lot to answer for their dhimmitude.
Here's what my family uses for toilet paper in our home:
"Muhammad said in his Hadith: ’The Hour [of Resurrection] will not arrive until you fight the Jews and the rock and the tree will say: O Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!’
Why are we so scared of offending Muslims?
The Pace University incident becomes even more ludicrous and sinister when it is recalled that Islamists are the current leaders in the global book-burning competition. After the rumor of a Qur'an down the toilet in Guantanamo was irresponsibly spread, a mob in Afghanistan burned down an ancient library that (as President Hamid Karzai pointed out dryly) contained several ancient copies of the same book. Not content with igniting copies of The Satanic Verses, Islamist lynch parties demanded the burning of its author as well. Many distinguished authors, Muslim and non-Muslim, are dead or in hiding because of the words they have put on pages concerning the unbelievable claims of Islam. And it is to appease such a spirit of persecution and intolerance that a student in New York City has been arrested for an expression, however vulgar, of an opinion.
This has to stop, and it has to stop right now. There can be no concession to sharia in the United States.
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