Mimi: So, now you need to get some things straight...Muslims DO NOT worship a moon god-that is ridiculous and you sound foolish and ignorant when you attempt to pass that as a fact. Allah is the Arabic name for God-the God of Adam, the Creator of all things. I can't get any clearer than that when it comes to describing who Muslims worship."

Bernie: Actually, Mimi, you are wrong.

Bible Believers, Allah - the Moon God

The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Prof. Coon goes on to say, "Similarly, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."

This fact answers the questions, "Why is Allah never defined in the Qur'an? Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?" Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.

In effect he said, "Look, you already believe that the Moon-god Allah is the greatest of all gods. All I want you to do is to accept that the idea that he is the only god. I am not taking away the Allah you already worship. I am only taking away his wife and his daughters and all the other gods." This is seen from the fact that the first point of the Muslim creed is not, "Allah is great" but "Allah is the greatest," i.e., he is the greatest among the gods. Why would Muhammad say that Allah is the "greatest" except in a polytheistic context? The Arabic word is used to contrast the greater from the lesser. That this is true is seen from the fact that the pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped. This "Allah" was the Moon-god according to the archeological evidence. Muhammad thus attempted to have it both ways. To the pagans, he said that he still believed in the Moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians, he said that Allah was their God too. But both the Jews and the Christians knew better and that is why they rejected his god Allah as a false god.

I wonder, Mimi, do you have an alternate explanation for the symbol of Islam? Perhaps this is not the Crescent of the Moon but rather the Crescent of the Dental Pick? Is that what you'd have us believe?

Mimi: Muslims believe in the four books of God-The Torah, The Psalms, The Gospels, and The Holy Qur'an. We believe in all the prophets of God-From Adam to Jesus to Muhammed and all in between (peace be upon them all). We believe in His angels. This is a simple summary of facts about Islam.

Bernie: Not quite. Muslims only believe in the Qur'an. As for the Bible, Muslims believe it is corrupt and has been altered by man.. The Torah and the Gospels interestingly do not mention the coming of Mohammed or Islam.

Hot Air, 22 Jul 2007, Blogging the Qur’an: Sura 3

This again explains why mainstream Islamic tradition regards the Jewish and Christian Scriptures as corrupted: they don’t, after all, confirm what is in the Qur`an, and so Jews and Christians must have dared to alter them – and now "their forgeries deceive them as to their own religion" (v. 24). Asad therefore emphasizes that "it is to be borne in mind that the Gospel frequently mentioned in the Qur`an is not identical with what is known today as the Four Gospels, but refers to an original, since lost, revelation bestowed upon Jesus and known to his contemporaries under its Greek name of Evangelion (`Good Tiding`), on which the Arabicized form Injil is based. It was probably the source from which the Synoptic Gospels derived much of their material and some of the teachings attributed to Jesus. The fact of its having been lost and forgotten is alluded to in the Qur`an in 5:14."

Sadly Mimi, whoever told you that Muslims believe in the Gospels forgot to mention that they are talking about the lost Gospels which have very little resemblance to the Gospels as known to Christians. So much for believing in the Holy Books preceding Islam; Mimi, you've been duped.

Mimi: Muslims are taught to respect the signs and symbols of all nations, especially of those in which one lives.

Bernie: That's hilarious. You must have missed my post Hate Speech and Muslim hypocrisy where I list the most popular book titles among Muslims at the Cairo Book Fair:

• "It Is Not Holy" (Referring to the Holy Bible)


• "Why they broke the Cross" (Attacking Christian beliefs)


• "Christians of Egypt; how many and who are they?" (Hateful publication inciting Muslims against the Copts, Egypt’s indigenous people)


• "Islamic Enlightenment" (An oxymoronic, hate-filled periodical that incites hatred against Jews, Christians and non-Muslims in general)


• "Inter-faith dialogue, a big scam" (Portraying inter-faith dialogue as a conspiracy against Islam and the Muslims)


• "O ye filthy gypsies, a message to the Diaspora Christians" (Makes one want to go buy it just by title alone!)

Mimi: Another correction needed within this blog of yours, is your bullet that Islam forbids a Muslim to make friends with Christians and Jews. This is false. Christians and Jews are people of the book and therefore, we are all brothers and sisters in faith. For we all believe in the One and Only Omnipotent Creator-GOD.

Bernie: Whoever convinced you to convert to Islam made sure you didn't read these passages:

• Surah 3:32 - Allah loveth not the disbelievers.


• Surah 3:28 - Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers.
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• Surah 3:118 - O ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk


• Surah 3:131 - And ward off (from yourselves) the Fire prepared for disbelievers.

These verses are plain enough for infidel ears. How do you parse these verses, Mimi?

Mimi: It seems that you fallen into a hole that many have fallen into and that is to take information conveyed by the world news *which simply conveys and records rare and deviant behavior* and thrusted it upon the rest, without realizing that it is only a tiny minority that shares hateful ideas and beliefs.

Bernie: Rare? The behavior you speak of is so rare and deviant that it is repeated by thousands of Muslims every week. I'll tell you what is rare: a Christian bombing an abortion clinic is so rare and deviant a behavior it would make page one of every newspaper in this country. No American paper bothers putting a Muslim bombing on the front page anymore. Who cares about the inevitable, the daily, the mundane, and the usual? When Muslims butcher a few dozen of their own, who cares? When Muslims behead Christians anywhere in the world, it is so common an occurrence it rarely makes it to page 82 of any paper in America. When MUSLIMS KIDNAP and CONVERT CHRISTIAN CHILDREN you will only read about it in a few blogs, certainly no major paper will waste valuable ink to report about something that Muslims do every single hour of every single day, you know, the rare and the deviant.

It is not world news that conveys the truth about Islam, but blogs like mine that spend the extra energy to report on the evil of Islam that large news organizations are fearful or loath to print. It is certainly not me who has been duped and deceived by pimps of the cult and sham religion known as Islam.

Mimi: I implore that you do not attempt to speak about things that you have no knowledge of. It completely weakens your discourse. I can only imagine that you or others want to say that Muslims don't believe what I have just told you and that I am wrong, but that would just be silly of you...to tell me a Muslim and the rest of the 1.5 billion+ Muslims in the world what THEY/WE/I believe as if you know better than us.

Bernie: I doubt that there are many Muslim converts that know more about Islam than I do. When I make a J'Accuse, I supply the verses directly from the Qur'an or from an authoritative Islamic source. I don't just make sh*t up. There are many thousands of abused women who deny to themselves that they are abused. In the same manner most Muslim women deny that they are abused under Islam, see Muslim Women Slaves in Denial. Most Muslim men are too ignorant and uneducated to understand the Qur'an other than the promises of Paradise in return for a life of submission.

As for educated Muslims, there are two kinds. The first kind are like Salman Rushdie who realize that Islam is a fake and a fraud - these are harmless Muslims. The second kind are like those who bombed London on 7/7.

My sweet dear Mimi, is there anything I refuted here that is in error?